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3:58 (1) WHAT IF CAP JUST GAVE THEM TO THE TVA???(2) IF EVERYTHING THE AVENGERS DID WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN, WOULDN'T THIS MEAN THAT LOKI'S ACTIONS WERE ALSO SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN; SINDS HIS ACTIONS ARE THE CAUSE OF THE AVENGERS ACTIONS WHICH SHOULD HAPPEN?
I thought thay had to set Loki back to his place because he had an important role againt Thanus. How will the time-lime reach to endgame if such an important character was missing since 2012? I think Loki is the beginning of the multiverse indeed
Hi. Why isn't the Dr Strange play/abuse/usage of timeline in Dr/ Strange's movie triggered in the TVA or mentioned?
Question? Has anyone else noticed there was 2 Tasseracts in End Game
The question that doesn't get answered is, doesn't every loki in every timeline snatch and take the tesseract in endgame and therefore every loki in every timeline is a variant?
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Loki from the first Avengers film is a variant because for the sacred timeline to stay in tact he was to continue on & meet his fate in End game by avoiding said fate he became a variant that needed to be pruned.
This is a genius explainer. I'm watching it after episode three, and it's impressive how well it stands up. (I've watched a lot of really crap Loki fan vids now!).Loving this channel! Only discovered it the other day and subbed - really glad I did :D
A mini series showing us Caps returning the stones would be pretty dope.
Can’t wait till Wednesday!
Also, isn’t there now a variant Thor (if not a variant Avengers team) out there looking for Loki? And if he can’t be found, they can never reset their timeline?If the whole team is out looking for Loki, we won’t get Winter Soldier, the Dark World, nor Age of Ultron, which won’t give us Wanda, Vision, Falcon, or Bucky?Also, Cap told his 2012 self that Bucky is alive. This would create a variant Cap that’s looking for Bucky.This got complicated.
I don’t think he’s going to fix anything, I think this is the creation, or perhaps liberation of the Multiverse.
So the time line of thanos who got smoked is a mess, gamora's time line is a mess, cap seeing cap in infinity war is also is a mess TVA is so much biased manhhh
So is Loki's mum still alive, through I had it figured out but now am more confused lol🤣
The time line stuff isn’t hard to understand. It’s the same type of timeline that Dragon ball introduced in the 90’s with Future trunks during the android and cell saga
5:46 That whole Loki life summary tho 💀
Tbh they could do a side series on cap returning the stones, and how he avoids not being taken by the tva
The timeline is one line with events meant to happen. From our perspective as the audience there is a timelines Within that timeline there is another from the character POVMaybe changes in the character timeline are meant to happen(endgame) on the audience timeline which is on the outside
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Question: does sacred timeline means there's only one timeline and no multiverse? Then where did cap go in the end? What did Strange see in Avengers? What is happening to the timeline where Loki has gone MIA with the tesseract!?
Also Avengers killed the past Thanos so that means that everything else didn’t happen either, like the death of Loki by thanos, it’s all confusing how they making time travel to be.
Actually Tanos is snapped not killed just like half of the univers was only snapped... that means if only snap with the gauntlet with the stones to get him back he will return.
Something doesn't fit , what about 2014 Thanos who traveled to 2018 and then he got snapped into dust which means no infinity war and no snapping 50% of living creatures which leads to no end game and time heist which create a paradox because Avengers were supposed to travel back in time !!!!!!
I still don’t get it
So it's basically similar to Zelda's time travel logic (at least with what happened to Ocarina of Time)
Either marvel time travel just doesnt make sense or the TVA is doing a REALLY bad job
2:03: Changing things in the past causes an alternate branch history to split off. Leaving the original timeline unchanged, but forming a multiverse of parallel realities. 2:44: Loki takes the tesseract in 2012 and the original, sacred timeline goes unchanged.4:15: Loki's snatch creates an unfixable breach in the sacred timeline. 6:09: Loki altered his destiny by taking the tesseract in 2012. I'm hoping someone can see the possible contradiction here. I'd love to know how to better understand this. The first two minutes we're told that the sacred timeline is unchanged in the events of Loki taking the tesseract. Then at 4:15 and 6:09, the sacred timeline is unfixable and the destiny of Loki on the sacred time is altered. My brain is literally thinking: 2 + 2 = POTATO. Haha.
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Who likes this loki better than the 2012 version
I dont care much for Benadryl Cucumber but if Loki is in the next Strange movie then hell yeah ill watch it.
Wait loki was right it its tony straks fault ....he told hulk to take the stairs and it caused the space stone to fall in lokis hand
I can't possibly be the only one who noticed that Thanos no longer exists in the timeline from where he travelled to endgame thereby creating a branch.
Avengers didn't fix everything as they killed thanos from the past and it means most of the things are not gonna happen(including loki's death.)
I’m thinking the kid in the church was Loki 🤔
One huge issue I never thought about untill this vid was how did he return the space stone back into its tessaract form ?
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It seems like nobody ever talks about the fact that there's at least one thing that Captain America couldn't return to its proper place in history at the end of Endgame. Frikken Thanos.
I think Loki will go back, sacrificing himself to restore timeline after helping with their current crisis.
So if Steve put the stones back, wouldn’t Infinity War just happen again? I don’t get the point of snapping everyone back if so. Someone please help me out here. 😕
How come young Thanos from the past who traveled forward in time to start the final End Game battle didn't trigger the TVA like Loki does here? Young Thanos' time travel is like Loki going to Mongolia, both deviance are un-fixable breach to the original secret timeline. I need explanation, please.
How come nobody is talking about the time split that Cal CLEARLY has to be making staying back in the past with Peggy instead of being Captain america in the future with the avengers? So he was never frozen in ice?? HUGE plot hole everyone over looks because awwwe caps happy! He deserves it. lol
How did loki assume that the avengers were traveling back in time as a last stitch effort to stop him when it was really thanos?
TVA said that Avengers were supposed to get the infinity stones in the past and Doctor Strange said that there a 1 in 14 million possible futures that they would win and they did it while Loki has escaped. Doesn't that mean that Loki was destined to escape?
It’s Loki’s fault I’m not a billionaire Bc he messed up the timeline
I'm just gonna assume at some point the TVA lowkey helped Cap put the stones back to it's original form and placed it to their respective locations. Or maybe Cap did get caught by the TVA and made a deal to not travel through time in exchange for going back to live in his era in the late 40's/ early 50's.
Omg so complicated and seems like a lot of plot holes in there. So all they need is him to go back to the original Timeline so everything will fall back into places. But then how does erasing him help?
Explain gamora and nebula
I feel like they let this Loki go back into the main timeline at some point in time making him the only person knowing of the TVA and that’s what makes the universal war inevitable
They should create a movie on Cap America: Return of the Stones
I want a captain America series of him just trying to return all the stones
when tony and THOR stopped to talk to their parents why didn't that also alter the timeline? In movie time they probably spent 10-15 minutes talking which means they halted whatever the parents were going to do in addition other moments that were suppose to happen.
This might mean the start of ultra is from marvel strike team
If Thanos would have won, would the TVA had arrested him? Honestly that would be hilarious
TVA were fine with him wiping out half of existence so i dont think they would really care.
With the introduction of the TVA, I've been trying to understand how Cap going back, and staying in the past isn't considering a branched timeline? Timeline 1 - Cap is 'asleep' for 60 years but hasn't aged, awakens and helps bury Peggy. Timeline 2 - Cap puts the infinity stones back, but stays in the past, living out his entire life with Peggy.
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This whole time keepers thing is really immoral
There are multiple singe lines in the robot detector machine which is why Loki asks if that happens often. I would like to see that come into play for the season finale.
Is Mobus another Loki variant?
The timeline is "sacred" because it leads to the creation of the TVA.Instead of simply reseting Loki, the TVA wishes to understand more about his ways.I suspect Kang is behind this interest.
Lol I just imagined Crisis on infinite timelines
I don't Understand how this shit even works.In Endgame the Avengers understand that loki vanished with the tesseract and that's why Cap and Tony go back in time to retrieve it (right?) So how does the regular original timeline even exist? Loki wouldn't even gotten the tesseract in the first place cuz it's in the hands of the Avengers?I'm now confused about everything
Why Steve it should have been dr. Strange who should have returned the stones
So why did the TVA allowed thanos to travel to 2023 if he will be missing in 2015? That will create an alternate future right? Loki from 2015 and other characters that died because of thanos wont die right?
What if it was TVA that helped steve Rogers put the stones back and helped him merger timelines so that he live out with CarterMaybe marvel can have 'Captain Time ' who works for tva
Shouldn't then the TVA also go back and grab the Thanos that moved forward in time to fight with the avengers in Endgame?? :O
has it been explained anywhere why Steve staying behind did not make him a dangerous Variant?? I feel like I'm missing something.
Ugh! Multiverse is giving me a headache.
I mean, yeah. They explained this in the first episode.
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But Captain America went back to Agent Carter so he went back in time and changed something. He needs an ass whoopin too!
no more sorcerers???
pretty sure hydra cap is the cap that cap layed out to get the infinity stone from him and said bucky is alive. I think that sets him up for hydra cap
But what if Loki does go back to that moment in time? Yes, he's witnessed an abbreviated version of his life but not enough to radically change everything. The only two things he might want or be able to pointedly change would be Frigga's murder and his own death. By then, knowing how the TVA works, he might be forced to allow his mother to die but he most certainly wouldn't march glibly to his own doom. All he would need to do is what most fan theories speculated he did anyways: illusion some hapless Asgardian into dying for him. Then, to be safe, he sits out Infinity War and Endgame and the intervening 5 years to keep the Sacred Timeline unaltered (and therefore Thor chunky and enraged) and then pops back into existence in Phase 4!
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OK, my brain hurts.
Anyone else notice a lack of other worldky species or sentient beings at the TVA? Seems odd not one Yandu or space squid with legs being walking g around or working there
He’s not going to let himself die by thanos now that he knows
Maybe he will bring the reset remote to undone Thanos snapping his fingers. Reset continuously rapidly
In end game thanos arrives to avengers head quarters from the past to the future and gets erased by tony.....if thanos has jumped directly to the future where did thanos of infinity war came from!!??
Well technically the RESET CHARGE USED BY TVA solves mostly the whole alternate reality problem
@Cursed Grogu definitely yes. Still 4 more episodes to go. We'll see what happens next
@SG YT well that makes sense but there are still some unsolvable flaws
@Cursed Grogu no i think . Sacred timeline has loki and tesseract. This(variant) loki and tesseract is a copy of them in branched timeline
Loki is with them tho, so the sacred timeline would be missing a loki
Leaving out the Miss Minute explanation. The TVA "clips" timelines by erasing them from history, using the device they activated as they left with Loki.
When Loki was on trial I was expecting him to play the Avengers card harder. when he was told the Avenger's time heist was supposed to happen, I was expecting, Loki to say "Then I was supposed to escape." and then explaining that if the events in the time heist were supposed to play out the way it did then the Hulk was supposed to hit Tony with the door and the Tesseract was always supposed to slide across the floor to Loki's feet. And is it not in Loki's nature to take advantage of the situation? So that means Loki was supposed to escape. But what if the time heist was supposed to succeed then that means Loki is innocent because he did not influence the time heist, that was the hulk so if anything the hulk is guilty. This would be the perfect time for Mobius to stand up and approach the bench and take over with Loki and us never getting a response to what Loki said.
I can actually see Loki returning after his journey in his series. It would make everything he does in the main timeline much more impactful.
But how is there a Loki now in the sacred timeline if he left? Like lit when Thor turns around and is like yo like where you at, does some other Loki just pop in and carry out the rest of Loki’s path? I don’t get it
It isnt hard to understand. It is marvel after all
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Why didnt TVA arrest thanos for leaping time
I have a concept, See Each Infinity Stone have it's own concious. Mind Stone back up itself in Wanda, Reality Stone was saving itself etc... Similarly Space Stone knew that Thanos was going to destroy it, So Space Stone took Itself & Loki to another Timeline to protect itself. One more thing is that, There were many ways to defeat Thanos, but Dr. Strange's main purpose was not just to defeat Thanos, Because the actual Problem was Infinity Stone, anyone can have them & "pufff" the Universe. So He made sure that Thanos will be defeated but only after He destroy the Stones. Because then there won't be any other Mad Guys who would go on to collect the Shining Gemstones & "Pufff" the Universe.
Who would like to see a Steve Rogers series where it showed him traveling through time putting back the infinity stones? 8-10 episodes. Meeting up with Peggy at the end. But throughout the series, cap in space, in Asgard, red skull encounter etc.
End game tie. Travel is actually similar to how dragon ball z does it
How did they reform the tesseract though? It was broken to get the stone out
So ….. if Loki is in a different timeline WITH the STONE, he doesn’t go back to Asgard with Thor, isn’t imprisoned, doesn’t help Thor get out of Asgard with Jane and the aether, doesn’t send daddy down to earth and the retirement home, possibly daddy doesn’t die, no Hela, no ragnarok, no destruction of Asgard, no STONE to give to Thanos, no destruction of half the Universe. Sounds like a good thing to me. Where does the time line converge again to allow all the above to happen. I am confused. Lol.
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Dont all these arguments fall apart when you look at the fact that pre snap Thanos travelled through time to a point after the snap and was killed by the Avengers. Isnt that going against the Sacred Timeline.
So returning the stones in time breaking all those time lines deleted more people from history than thanos 🙃
I'm telling you LOKI IS THE RAT IN ENDGAME!!!!!!!
At the end Loki will go back